Not gonna play the game, but was looking at Carmen’s ending on youtube. They can’t POSSIBLY be different and have their own personalities, life experiences, that would just be outrageous and impossible, right? No, it’s just the sign of a poorly designed game. These are the unbelievably hot girls who would find the biggest, strongest, best-looking complete jerk they could get their hands on, and then endlessly whine about how “men are such pigs”. Note that, while close, the path never actually strays into the fire. :-). I think, though, that there’s a lot of merit to Maldeus’ interpretation. Finally, the red “X”es are also on the trees that the woodcutter has marked for cutting, before the end. It seemed to hit a nerve for you eh? Ocean parasailing is a hugely popular activity in Playa Del Carmen, with … @Mari 27: How does a mattress imply new responsibility or duties? Maybe she’ll sneer that “men are all pigs”, and then go find the next wolf in her life. And yes, with Carmen especially it’s very easy for me to insert my own issues. He works on this site full time. A wink of the eye. THE PATH(血徑迷蹤)是Tale of Tales (ToT) 2009年出產的作品 可以說是黑暗版小紅帽<==ROBIN線, 其他線都有所變質 詳細的歡迎大家拿"血徑迷蹤"去餵GOOGLE(喂 很重要所以要紅字+大字 這只是個記錄!!記錄!!不是感想!!!!! What’s she doing in the tent? Is it possible that the ‘nightmare’ sequences in Grandma’s house are all potential outcomes of the encounter in the woods? In one vid I watched, Carmen leaned over the fire as she started it, making it appear as if she was being “baptized” in it like the birth of a phoenix or something, and some people misinterpreted this glitch as something meaningful. super-ego? One of many lovers, perhaps. With a strength that approaches violence. She’s just there. So to me, the whole episode was more about uncontrolled drug (legal or otherwise) use, rather than about anything sexual. That throws off the “X means no” theory and switches it to “X means target.” That makes the wisdom-tree interpretation much less likely. I’m interested in hearing about what’s next. Oh, well. She doesn’t try to force you away from these things, however. Not to sound like a Shamus fanboy, but it seems like saying the Path is about rape is at best debateable, and at worst questionable. The Path-----A short horror game by Tale of Tales. Seventeen. A few leveled out. Depending on your faith system something happens or not to the soul but either way it’s not about growing up. Most stories have plot holes. @Mari 23: Whatever happened between the two of them was evidently pretty thoroughly traumatic for Carmen. These in turn unlock extra scenes in the Grandma’s house. Or, for that matter, it may not be about sex at all. Will you play this with your friends? Do you go to a shooting range and cry out, “OH MY GOSH THIS PLACE IS FILLED WITH CRAZED GUNMEN!” The fact that he’s so involved with his work is also notable because she is trying to provoke a reaction out of him. Carmen lay crumpled on the path to Grandmother’s house, arms and legs folded under her. But I dont think shes that superficial. I guess I’m not the right person for this game…. :), A thought occurred to me. They remember things inside their minds, and many things are shared, due to them being so close. Seventeen. Mattresses as new duties/responsibilities comes from the “marriage bed” concept. I say it this way, because the forest is different for each girl. From a warm and handsome man, perhaps. Get it as soon as Mon, Feb 8. Having left her childhood body behind, she enjoys parading the new Carmen. It also makes the “mad ax murderer” theory a bit more likely. Come back here! I have no idea right now, but maybe by the end of this I’ll have figured something out. Spunk is awesome. Thanks for joining the discussion. Rejection is a major player in the mental and emotional stability/growth of adolescents, and it can mess you up badly. Carmen … I watched the video JohnW linked to, and what I noticed was… Grandmother’s house is big! Here is my interpretation of the pool room (this, of course, does not invalidate anyone else’s interpretation). The definition of her name is: "garden, song or poem", and is also related to the word "charm". Never that she’s clever, or kind or funny or anything that pertains to her as a person. Ignoring the weird moaning and “possible sexual”/”most likely sexual” stuff at the end, (I guess one could take such as false memories or dreams the girl had or whatever mixed in with her “reality”)…it could have just been a kind of big brother or fatherly relationship ( the beer being some sort of rite of passage as she was growing older or it could’ve been a “ok but just this once” “see you didn’t like the taste did you…now you won’t ever drink it again will you?” some such thing…*shrug* or we could be totally wrong and off our rockers) towards the girl no sex at all involved, (consensual or not) but of course…again, one would have to ignore all the weird stuff at the very end or explain it away as her unanswered desires or false memories or something like that. I think that’s why you play as her in the epilogue. Some have said that her crawling out of her (small) red tent symbolizes birth and innocence, but I’m not too sure about that. Also, concerning the soundtrack, the “safe” ending for Carmen plays that little “la la la la la la” ditty all the way through, with a piano piece in the background, and it only begins to sound eerie towards the end, when you get the feeling that a game like The Path couldn’t possibly be playing something so light-hearted so repetitiously without some kind of sinister intent. A glorious age for a girl. She doesn’t go after men who abuse her unless that’s what she’s used to. She'll give them a little bit extra to look at too. But it’s at least an alternate view to “rape simulator and ax murder.”. I’m not sure how to put it, but she’s a positive aspect of self. (Not literally but metaphorically.) A shake of the hips. When Carmen sits down at the campfire, the woodsman will approach her and sit next to her. I don’t think the game would be this redundant. But he never once gave her an unsettling look. In one of the final images (shown at the top of this post), Carmen has an X on her face and her eyes look deer-like. WOW! Her sexual pretensions did not make her as special as she had thought they would, and now she has to live with having been used. Then we see the seat of judgment, which stands atop a pile of mattresses, overlooking a pool of stagnant water (a once powerful thing rendered impotent) with chairs (symbolic of dismissal) and a cut-down tree. (unless of course you decide to stick with the darned rape/perverted old man theory…sigh…in me and some other people’s opinion no way she would let him do anything even if she was drunk…he was too old and ugly to seriously be interesting at all to her “in that way” for all we know he could’ve been a friend that just happened to be older than she was or a relative same as in the various red riding hood stories and maybe she wasn’t really flirting with him at all…they hardly ever say if he is a relative but sometimes in the story the woodsman is a relative, right? The “x”s are exactly like the ones on the trees. Playa del Carmen prides itself on being the anti- Cancún destination, and it’s true that the Riviera Maya beach town exudes a hipper, more laid-back vibe than gringo-friendly Cancún to the north. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. The series was ordered by Hulu in March 2015, with a straight 10-episode order, and debuted on March 30, 2016. A lot had deeply dysfunctional relationships either because they constantly craved attention (which isn’t actually all that healthy to simply want men to PAY ATTENTION to you all the time, whether you are in a relationship with them or not) or because of their terrible taste in men. Haven’t played the game. Sure, you may not get a picture-perfect ocean view or the people-watching experience of a sidewalk café on Quinta Avenida, the city’s buzzing pedestrian corridor, but instead you get delightful local flavor and truly memorable experiences – and you avoid paying inflated tourist prices. But a young woman doesn’t base her entire identity on male attention unless she’s already a complete mess. If you’re going to say that it HAD, then Annie’s comment is valid, as she was adding to the discussion that you so had asked for. Here are 6 reasons why I forbid political discussions on this site. The whole thing could be a metaphor for the woodsman. Valladolid. Flirting with him would then pretty much mean immersing oneself in something one fears and hates because one can’t get over it. I wanted to point out a meaning that seems to have been overlooked: the tree in the bed, while perhaps alluding to penetration (as well), seems like a pretty clear reference to pregnancy. And the woodsman does seem to be in a position of attack in the very end. Let's ruin everyone's fun by listing all the ways in which zombies can't work, couldn't happen, and don't make sense. …Having not played this, this does sound plausible. I’m done interjecting juvenile nonsense into an engaging intellectual discussion now. That was just the consequence, but not the actual ‘bad thing’ I saw in it. For you. Another usually interesting blogger goes all Nice Guy(TM).”. How would those of you who have actually played it rate it as a GAME, ENTERTAINMENT, something you ENJOY and will go BACK TO and play over and over for months, perhaps even years? Moving on. Not beer. She’s hung over. Fear, perhaps? lost their (screw vague, yet gendered third-person pronouns) virginity, in a manner somewhat less than the sweet perfection the GiW/ego would like to admit. The bed is where we go to end every day and yet arise from it anew every morning. More Buying Choices $5.00 (67 used & … Scarlet acts all grown up and stuff, but I know she only thinks of one thing. Also, what is the purpose of chopped down tree in the pool of stagnant water? You can quote someone like this: Darth Vader said
Luke, I am your father., Your email address will not be published. He’s got an axe. He doesn’t do anything to make her feel welcome. In the house there are noises but I think that it may just be the fact that she is dreaming and that it didn’t really happen. He almost completely ignores her, and doesn’t respond to her flirting at all. Her identity was founded around an over-sexualization of herself which she has now realized, through the evidently extremely persuasive woodsman, was nigh-unto suicidal. Carmen. Carmen (French: ) is an opera in four acts by French composer Georges Bizet. I’ve viewed the “sisters” all along as a single person at major turning points in her life. (In particular, Little Red Riding Hood’s “I Know Things Now” song.) @ Maldeus Chairs in dreams and literature can frequently symbolize dismissal of feelings. So, basically, it seems to me that Carmen saw something horrible – an accident, a crime, a disease, or something less obvious – and blames herself in some way. It could either be “the woodsman has sex with her, and perhaps even kills her” or “this woodsman turned out to be quite harmless, but you didn’t know that in advance, he might have been a psycho killer.”, The problem with interpreting the ending as what happened after the fade to black is that it doesn’t make sense for some of the girls (especially Ginger). that she couldn’t possibly be that insulted or damaged just because she was rejected. I think the encounter with the woodsman was literal, and only Grandma’s house is figurative. A first sexual experience doesn’t have to be non-consensual to be bloody, terrifying or bloody terrifying. I know this girl. But after going over it several times in my mind, I’m convinced this is not the case. Girls you personally knew, and from the way you speak about it, had strong reactive emotions to, are not good comparisons to the female coming-of-age tale. For whatever reason, I spent quite a bit of time running in straight lines to see if I could find the edges of the game world (I was disappointed to learn that it just wraps around.). Your analysis is as well written as always Shamus. If the tree represents wisdom, it means that the wisdom has been destroyed or possibly, going with the chairs, dismissed. In addition people tend to forget this is supposed to be a game, from what I have seen and heard there’s not much actual gaming. But no more. Then Carmen moves into the bedroom. It would have been very, very easy for him to appear threatening. What kind of person would use a chair while it is sitting on a bed? Having left her childhood body behind, she enjoys parading the new Carmen. This is supposed to be fun. She is fully aware of the heads that turn when she passes by. I may take something completely different away from it than somebody else does and in the absence of author comment nobody is wrong. Looking forward to seeing if the next one follows suit. X means no. They call him a It’s super-interesting. No Carmen. With powder white sand and vibrant turquoise water, Playa del Carmen has some of the best beaches in Mexico where you spend the day soaking up the sun and sipping on frozen cocktails. If water means purity, then the dead tree would represent a terrible stain of guilt or depression. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp76VCOSDzQ, That is the girl in white > look at some of the other videos for the path and you might understand her part in it a little more :). Paperback $14.59 $ 14. It did with me, in the sense of “Sigh. I did find some interesting food for thought in the presence of the blanket (quilt?) Shamus Young is a programmer, an author, and nearly a composer. From a warm and handsome man, perhaps. from the bed in the dirty laundry in the forest. Following her will lead you to various items and places that can trigger memories. And to add to how you had called her words a “lazy ad hominem,” I can say the same for you, as someone who claimed her to be “knee-jerking.”. On, June 16, we welcomed two extraordinary IWF members for a much-needed conversation.Members were invited to a special virtual event with Dr. Bernice A. Her story to me was learning that in life there are one way doors and what we think we want is often not what we think it is. I discount the “everything is literal” argument simply because the developers describe the game as being about growing up. Carmen on hands and knees, a begging/supplication posture. I haven’t played the prologue, but because of that incident I’ve ended up thinking of the girl in white as something a bit more sinister. And I don’t deny that it’s pretty clearly the moan of somebody having sex. A path paved with wood, surrounded by fire, would, to extend the metaphor, basically be “walking on corpses” while surrounded by passion or redemption, or possibly a cleansing/redeeming passion. @Oddluck – I think you’ve got it with your first thought. It’ll be more than i reckon, i think waaaay too little of people (one of the many curses of being ego maniacal)! My experience with the ending was pretty much the same as yours, Shamus. Hold her tight. It could simply mean that Carmen no longer exists as she was prior to her life-altering event. my sister Ruby is so pretty if she wasn't such a bore she could get all the boys! I definitely agree that the chopped down tree in the stagnant pool represents a loss of some kind, most likely Carmen’s lost virginity, with the water probably a representation of tears, matched with the sound of constant dripping. At the risk of overlooking something and/or looking moronic, I will, despite not having played this game, now post my interpretation: The tree doesn’t have to be a symbol for anything specific. I disagree that Carmen is a tragic figure, and suggest that your reading of her has been coloured by bad experiences and/or the general misogyny of society. I don’t think being attracted to men who have “a strength that approaches violence” is a typical attribute to attractive young women. The x is a universally understood symbol for “no.” No Carmen. Neriana: I think you might be reading too much into what the game’s saying. Begging for fire/wisdom. Carmen can steal his hat and wear it herself, but the woodsman wouldn't mind. I know guys don’t hear about this much and they just see some whore looking for attention. Earlier this year, when the topic came up in conversation, my wife explained it to me. As a girl I can tell you I have walked that way in my life many times. You can make things bold like this: I'm very glad Darth Vader isn't my father. Sian Ka’an Biosphere Reserve is located just south of Tulum, some 40 miles south of Playa del Carmen. Could simply rejecting her possibly have caused Carmen to take such a blow to her self-esteem that her sub-conscious registers it as her being attacked with a lethal weapon? And it always had to do with sex. Anything that triggers and stimulates intelligent discussion has some worth IMO. Carmen fancies herself a femme fatale perhaps. A Great discussion and justice! But that may have been Carmen’s desire rather than reality. By this interpretation, the woodsman, from his seat atop either many previous sexual encounters (one of which was perhaps with another Carmen-like girl, hence his unwillingness to accidentally hurt someone again) or else from his place as an older, more responsible person, rejects Carmen twice and offers her his wisdom, and she dismisses it. All my niece (who is 5) EVER hears from anyone in our family, apart from me and my husband, is how beautiful and cute she. The camera pulling back was because certain areas – all the wolf areas plus a few more – are made more “cinematic”. It sounds unsure because, of course, she isn’t, and deep down inside she knows it. You don’t grow up if you are murdered. She drove me nuts in high school. Water frequently represents power but in its stagnant form could well represent a loss of such. No more tree. :). Thoughtless and short-sighted. And sometimes it happens because a woodcutter ignores our advances long enough for us to get the message. What kind of property investment do you need to have to get a place like that in your elderly years? I hope I don’t need to list all of his crimes, but I don’t think he’s a rapist or an axe murderer. Perhaps this is what Carmen has craved and finally obtained a measure of altering her end? A shake of the hips. Plus, just a few blocks from the main square, you’ll find the Zaci cenote, perfect for a refreshing dip. Alternatively, in spite of his earlier reluctance, the man goes ahead and has sex with her, and the experience is both enlightening and painful. I’m going to be giving that one a lot of thought. Far more thought-provoking than I ever expected it to be. From where I sit, I’m not willing to say that the woodcutter’s lack of overt flirting back with Carmen means he was unlikely to have had a sexual encounter with her.. after all the game always does fade to black when things get uncomfortable for the girl, perhaps it became uncomfortable for Carmen when he began to come on to her. This makes me think that she represents the mother. Meh. For example, Carmen’s is the story of how she(/he?) Never before has a demo so thoroughly killed all interest I had in a game. To me the Red X / Carmen’s face thing ties into this, as it would make Carmen simply a “target” for him, an object to be used. You have missed the point of the exercise. An “X” on her face. During your stay, you may want to do a little exploring in (and around) Playa del Carmen, one the region’s most … Episode 1890: Acceptance: Is It The Path To Less Suffering by Allison Carmen on How to be More Mindful. Shamus: I think the bloody axe and saw imagery and the violent imagery in the final montage after we dive into bed shows a more direct violation. (No, women don’t like “bad boys”, they like guys who don’t just simper around pretending to be their “friends” while really looking to get into their pants, but without having the courage to actually make any sort of move.).
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